January 25, 2001


ow. ow ow ow.
I've decided that it would be appropriate to obtain a pounding headache. I hate that.

Speaking of pain, here are the latest SVS updates:

some philosophical mumbo-jumbo.
Since I have this lovely raging headache, I'm just going to cut and paste the responses I gave for a survey yesterday. It's for a woman who's going to be writing a book on female motorcyclists. I had fun writing the responses, and the woman in question emailed me today to say that she'd liked my responses too, so hopefully y'all will as well. And with that, have a good weekend, and I'm going to bed.


>  1. What is your name? (Please give first name, at least)

Carolyn Boyce

>  2. How old are you?

23, birthdate 4/30/1977

>  3. What is your profession?

Software Engineer for a small startup company in Palo Alto, CA.  I write
web applications and muck around with the user interface and databases.

>  4. What are other hobbies or interests you have?

Lots!  I play the viola in a local community orchestra, I do mechanical work
on my motorcycle and my friends' bikes (in addition to riding), I play
computer games, I'm learning poi (http://www.juggling.co.nz), I'm learning
to snowboard, I'm learning how electricity works and love playing 
with a little Radio Shack kit that I got for Xmas...I just love learning new 
things, so I always have about 20 hobbies at any time.  ;)

>  5. Are you married, single, divorced, widowed?

Single.

>  6. What is the highest educational level you've completed?

I have Bachelor's Degrees in both Computer Science and French

>  7. What is your basic income level (if married, combined with spouse)?


[Note: sorry, i'm not posting this one on my web site. ;)] 

>  8. What kind of bike do you ride?

I have a 1986 Honda Nighthawk 450, and I'm buying a 2001 Suzuki SV650S next
week. :)

>  9. Do you ride alone: frequently, occasionally, rarely?

Frequently; I commute to work on my bike every day that I can.  And of course
it goes without saying that I take the longest route possible that I can
get away with.  ;)  I also like to go on rides by myself when I need to think
or just be alone for a while.

> 10. Do you ride in groups: frequently, occasionally, rarely?

Also frequently.  My boyfriend and best friend both ride, so I usually go
out with at least one of them at least once a week.

> 11. Do you regularly ride with a specific person (boyfriend, husband,
>     friend, relative, etc.)?

I'm lucky enough to have lots of friends who ride. :)  I ride with my
boyfriend a lot because, well, we both love to ride.  My best (female) friend
just bought her first bike as well, so we do lots of short rides together.
She's getting so much better so quickly now, though, which is awesome, because
that means we can start doing longer rides together now too. :)

> 12. Do you attend rallies, conferences, bikes shows, etc.? If 
>     so, which ones?

I went to the CycleWorld International Motorcycle Show this past November
when it was in northern California.  That's the only one I've been to, but
I had the best time. :)  If the AMA does another Women in Motorcycles
conference in Ohio, I'll probably try my hardest to ride to that.

> 13. Do you belong to a group or club?

I just joined Women on Wheels, and I belong to AMA.

>  14. Was the charitable projects sponsored by the club an important reason
>      for joining?

On a subconscious level, I suppose so. :) It didn't really enter into my
thought process while I was deciding to join, but it was very important for
me to belong to organizations which further the cause of women in 
motorcycling, but did so in a friendly and community-oriented way.

> 15. Do you use your bike mainly for recreation or commuting (or a mix)?

Both! :)  I commute every day that I can (i.e. it's not raining and my bike
isn't in a million pieces in the garage due to my most recent mechanics kick),
and I also try to go on "fun" rides at least a couple of times a month.

> 16. How many miles do you average a year?

I'm not sure yet. ;) I got my bike license in October '99, but didn't really
start riding on a daily basis until July '00.  I've put around 3000 miles
on my bike in the past 4 months, and I intend to do a lot of riding this
summer.

> 17. When did you start riding up front?

I took the MSF course in August '00, and got my license in October '00.

> 18. Why did you start riding?

Ah, there's the $64,000 question! :) I've always loved motorcycles (more on
that in the next question), and I've always been overly-independant, so I
guess that it was only a matter of time before I learned to ride.  My mom
had always forbidden me to ride on the back of her cousin's bike (the only
"real" motorcycle I'd ever been around), so it wasn't until I met my current
boyfriend that I actually rode pillion for the first time.  Poor guy; once he
let me on the backseat, I never let him drive us anywhere in his car ever
again.  I think I had a permanent grin, and obsession for bikes, from that
night forward.  It was never a question after that of whether or not I'd get
my own bike; it was just a question of when the MSF class would have a slot
for me. :)


> 19. What influenced you to ride?

I grew up in Milwaukee, WI, so Harleys were definitely part of my culture.
My neighbor, who was approximately 12 years older than me, graduated from
college with degrees in business and German, and immediately went to work
for Harley-Davidson.  She spent most of my formative years being paid by
Harley to tour Germany on one of their motorcycles to promote their newest
lines.  That, coupled with the fact that I was raised to be extremely
independant and self-sufficient pretty much guaranteed that after I grew up,
I'd look back to motorcycling as a representation of that freedom and
independance that's been valued through my whole life.

Sometimes it seems like Peter (my boyfriend) influenced me to ride, since I
took the MSF class after meeting him and riding pillion with him, but I don't
think that's really accurate.  I think that he was able to see the spark that
lit up in my eyes after I'd remembered my childhood want for a motorcycle,
and he encouraged that for me.

>  20. Why didn't you start riding before?

It never occured to me.  That seems funny, doesn't it, since motorcycles are
now so engrained in my personality and philosophies as much as anything else.
I guess that between my childhood memories of Harleys and my adult acquisition
of my first bike came a lot of mental soul-searching and trying to figure
out who I was, and what I wanted, and what I valued.  Once I'd matured and
realized (mostly!) who I am and what's important to me, the motorcycle just
sort of naturally fell into place.  It seemed incredibly obvious.

> 21. Has your perceptions of women bikers changed? Why or why not?

Not really, because I never really had any perceptions of women bikers. :)
When I learned that my neighbor was riding for Harley, I don't remember anyone
making a point that she was female, so it never occurred to me that it might
be unusual.  My mom was always insistant that I challenge female sterotypes,
so I saw a lot of examples of women doing "non-women" things.

I suppose that if anything, it makes me a little annoyed to see women riding
pillion.  It really pisses me off to see women all dolled-up, wearing no
protective gear at all (except a helmet, since CA is a helmet state) on the
back of their boyfriend's bike.  It makes me angry that the man didn't insist
that his girlfriend/wife wear *something* that would save her in a crash,
and it makes me furious that *she* didn't insist on it.

> 22. What are your perceptions about other women riders?

Well, I already talked about the pillion riders -- if I see a woman in good
gear on the back of a bike, I figure she enjoys it and cares enough to be
protected, and that's fine with me. But in the scenario that I 
mentioned above, I assume that she's only on the guy's bike to make him like 
her or to prove something.  That's probably not fair of me.

My perceptions of women who ride their own bikes are that they are strong,
independant, beautiful women.  I want to meet them all, and shake all of
their hands, and say honestly to them, "you're amazing.  You're challenging
society and you're winning.  Keep doing what you love."

I suppose it's somewhat ironic that I don't always see myself that way at all.

> 23. What do you like about riding?

I love being in control of the machine. I love knowing that I could look the
other way or sneeze or scratch an itch, and the bike will go somewhere else
(not that that's a good thing!).  I love knowing that the oil and the gas and
the bearings and the levers are all there in/on the bike because *I* put them
there. I love doing my own maintenace and mechanics.  I love having every
little thing to do with this machine.  It's like a pet to me. I take care of
it, and it takes care of me.

> 24. What do you dislike about riding?

I don't like it that other drivers don't pay any attention to motorcyclists.
I hate having to pay 100% attention every minute that I'm on my bike, because
the first time that I don't, there'll be a car there waiting.

> 25. Have you experienced women riders to be different from 
>      women in general?

I've never been very close to many women, because, well, frankly, I don't
like a lot of women.  Women in general to me seem to lack an element of
pro-activity that I absolutely require in myself and all my friends. I hate
it when women wait for someone else to do something for them.

Women bikers are generally not like this.  You don't get very far as a
motorcyclist if you're not pro-active and can't think on the fly and can't
concentrate and can't take responsibility for yourself.  You have to be at
least a little bit spunky to be a motorcycle rider, and doubly so for women.
There has to be a little fire somewhere that says, "I want to go for this,
and I'm going to master it, and it's going to become a part of me."

> 26. Have you experienced prejudice or discrimination in any of 
>>>these areas:
>>>>  (a) Wanting to ride in the first place?
>>>>  (b) Riding?
>>>>  (c) Socializing at bike rallies, etc.?
>>>>  (d) Buying a bike?
>>>>  (e) Servicing a bike - is it better or worse than women and auto 
>>>>mechanics?

I've never noticed any prejudice in any of the above. There have 
been many, many times when Peter and I have been out somewhere, and a stranger 
has noticed our helmets and asked Peter directly what sort of bike he has.  
Each time this happens, one of the two of us will mention that I have my own 
bike, and each time, the questioner (always male) will react in surprise, as 
in, "oh, you're on two *separate* bikes?"  I don't necessarily see this as 
beinga n insult to me -- no one's ever insinuated that I *shouldn't* be on 
my own bike, but it seems very surprising nonetheless.

Same thing with servicing -- I do the maintenance and repair for both
of our bikes, and the salespeople at the parts stores always approach Peter
first when we go in, and are surprised when he tells them that I'm the
mechanic of the couple.

So, bottom line: lots of surprise, but no negative reactions.  Most people
smile and say that they think it's great when they find out that I ride.

> 27. What do you think the general society perception is of women riders?

I think that when most people think of women riders, they conjure up the
thought of the leather-clad biker babe on the back of her man's Harley.
I don't honestly think that most of society considers the fact that a lot
of women ride their own bikes (otherwise, there'd be no explanation for the
repeated surprise that I mentioned in the previous question).  It's hard for
me to project what most people would think, since I live (and ride) in an
area of the country where people are more liberal and women frequently
involve themselves in male-dominated activities (computer programming springs
to mind, probably because I'm a computer programmer. ;) ).  If I were to
ride in my hometown back in Wisconsin, I'm sure it would be a different story.

> 28. Why do you think more women don't ride?

Honestly, I think it's the same as the answer to the previous question -- I
think that most *women* don't realize that they could ride their own bike.
I think that it's very easy for women to take the role of caretaker, and their
immediate reaction to motorcycling is "but someone/myself could get hurt!".
There's a very engrained tendency in women to both want to shield 
themselves and others from risk, and to not challenge the status quo.  This 
combination makes it difficult for women to see motorcycling as an acceptable 
hobby for themselves (or for their husbands/children).
 

> 29. Has there been any more widespread effect on your life from riding up
>      front?

Just what I've been saying throughout -- motorcycling is my physical
manifestation of a deep desire to be different and independant.  Since
I started riding and working on my bike, I've become calmer, more tolerant,
more relaxed.  Before I started riding, my control-freak nature was frequently
taken out on those around me -- it stressed me out to have friends be late,
or to have plans change last minute, or even to have someone be better than
me at something.  Motorcycling has given me the chance to have a hobby that
I can do alone (thus satisfying my desire for independance) or with others,
and it's a hobby that allows me to have complete control over something.
I determine where the bike goes, how fast it goes there, and the parts I've
put in it determine how *well* it gets there. :)


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